Saturday, September 25, 2010

Budget

One of the most common questions that we are asked is,

“How Much does it cost?” Budgeting for a trip like this is a very individualized task. There are so many variables that I don’t think I could give an exact cost, but I will give an explanation of what it is like for us.

· Tow Vehicle - 2007 Dodge Ram 3500 dually- $37,000

· Salem Toy hauler 5th wheel - $31,000

· Storage Trailer for the small amount of personal items we kept - $3000

(We did not get a storage unit because we did not know how long we would travel. $200 a month for a unit adds up quick. Buying a storage trailer at least gives us something for our money. The problem is that the insurance company will not insure contents of this trailer. We have hope that everything will be fine when we settle down. Once again, though, we have not been able to place too much value in material things. Moth and rust destroy, thieves break in a steal. Our vision is for eternity. That trust is a choice. Sometimes I have to remind myself of that when I think about what is in that trailer and that if it is all gone or ruined when we return that it is ok and I will be ok.)

· Generator - We already had a Honda generator that cost us $1700

· Insurance - Allstate wouldn’t insure a camper that we live in full time, so we had to change to Progressive. It costs about $2000 a year for two vehicles, camper and contents.
· Cell Phone - four phones and MIFI wireless internet ($60) and unlimited texting costs $270 a month.

· Fuel - Doesn’t really cost much more than someone that has a day to day job they have to drive to. Our truck gets average 10mpg towing. The van is about the same towing our flatbed. We do not drive everyday, or every week! Sometimes we stay at a campground for a day and sometimes for four months. If we are on traveling farther distances, we obviously spend more for gas. Right now we are settled down for a few months, so gas is not an issue. I think it all evens out and for us does not cost us much more than when we had our house and were very involved in our community.
· Camp Fees - When we first began this trip, an average campground was $12 - $15 a night for at least water and electric. Arriving in Florida was shocking as we experienced camp fees of $20 - $30 per night. In the Keys it was horrendous, we paid $60 a night for four nights on Key Largo! But, we had a great time and it was worth it. We have found that areas that are not high tourist areas are much less expensive. Once out of rural areas, we expect to pay between $25 and $40 a night and around $70 a night at popular destinations. When we are at those campgrounds, we don’t stay long. Of course, there are free or very inexpensive campgrounds across the nation. We have stayed at a few of those. Some have been wonderful like in Marysville, KS, while others were terrible as in Laurel, MT. National Forest is free, but Shae needs to have cell and internet signal to work. Many times there is neither in the National Forest. Also, to run the generator can cost between $5 and $10 a day in gas. Then, we have to pay to dump our sewer at a gas station which is about $5. Occasionally truck stops & rest areas have free dump stations. Yellowstone area was $60 a night in the off season. We couldn’t stay on the park because of cell phone signal. Shae is 50% disabled with the VA, so he got an Access Pass which gives us 50% off National Campgrounds, and free into the parks. It has saved us so much money. Before we knew we could get this, my mother bought us a National Parks Pass for Christmas. That saved a lot of money. Army Corp of Engineer campgrounds are quite inexpensive and can be very nice and typically more private than state or private campgrounds. There are many times we stay with family. There is no camp fee, but we always try to give them money to pay for electric and are very generous with groceries and we buy for them if we eat out. So, staying with family has not proven to save us money, but that is fine with us. When we do volunteer work, we stay for free with full hook ups. But, once again, if we did 30 hours of pay work, we would make a good bit of money. It is not financially advantageous for us to do volunteer work, we could make a lot of money if we actually worked those hours, but that is not why we volunteer. We do it to help and make a difference. We do it to be a blessing and not get selfish. We do it because we love God and people.

· Food - Definitely costs more. I used to buy food in bulk through a food co-op. I have to buy smaller quantities now. Beef used to cost us $2.50 a pound for steaks and hamburger from our neighbor, who would have half a cow slaughtered for us every six months. Fresh milk was $2 a gallon and eggs came from our own chickens. I had heirloom veggies and our own berries and fruit trees. We miss all of these things terribly. To go from such healthy eating to buying so much from the store has been a difficult transition. One good thing is that we can buy food that is in season in the area we are in. Fresh apples in Georgia, strawberries in Florida, greens and corn in Missouri. I used to grind our own grain and make homemade bread. Doing this in the camper is proving quite hard. It is something I am trying to work back into.
· Extra Camper Expenses - Drop ins for the sewer tank vary in price. We use one every four days. Water hoses have to be replaced every now and then. The vents on the floors break constantly from all of the jumping and running taking place. I think we have had to buy at least 10. We use more paper plates than before, since we don’t have a dishwasher.
· Sewer Portable Tanks - $200. A lot of campgrounds we stay at do not have full hookups. We purchased a portable sewer tank on wheels. When our camper sewer tank is full, he dumps it into the sewer tank on wheels and then pulls it to the dump station. We stayed at a campground in Apache Junction, AZ that didn’t have sewer or electric and still cost us $20 a night. Cody pulled the sewer tank with his bike back and forth to the dump station. At one point a car was coming at him from both directions. He had to pull into the grass which put a hole in the tank. Needless to say, we had to buy another one. Lesson: do not pull sewer with your bike.
· Outdoor grills - I bought a $30 two burner electric stove. It works great when it is too hot out to cook inside the camper. I can just plug it in instead of messing with the outdoor propane grills we bought. There have even been times where we have no propane and I totally cook on the electric stove outside. It is not fun, but we manage. The gas grills were $20 and $60 for each. One is for pots and the other is a grill.

· Sightseeing varies. Museums sometimes are cheaper to buy a season pass for a family than individual passes. We spend up to $200 a month on this and then other months we try to only go to the free museums to make up for the expense.
· Eating out - We do not eat out much at all. Picnic lunches and snacks are the way to go for us. There is a blanket in our van that we use to eat and rest on at a park we pass by or in a parking lot.
· Laundry - For the first 9 months we used laundromats. It cost between $20 and $24 a week. We usually have to do a load a day to keep up with our big family. I would go to the laundromat every four or five days. Just before we had sweet baby, we decided to get the rv washer/dryer combo. It cost us $1000 but is well worth it.
· I am sure I am forgetting many items, so I will add more as I think about it. Please leave comments and questions.  I would love to hear from you.

8 comments:

  1. Hello Smith Family, we are in Texas, with our house on the market for 2 weeks now, wanting SO much to do what YOU guys are doing!! :) Thank you for your info. It is really helpful as we are trying to prepare.
    Do you recommend a discount club membership, ie.. Good Sam, Passport America? I also heard of a really cheap Museum/Zoo membership through Happy Hollow for around $100 per family for discounts? What is your opinion of these? Thank you again for your blog and the time! It is a blessing! Steph

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  2. Great question. I knew there would be things I would forget. We are members of Good Sam and Passport America. Both have saved us money. There are many benefits to Good Sam and I always know that the campground will be decent if not really nice. Passport America has given us the opportunity to stay at nicer campgrounds than what we could afford otherwise. We stayed at one in Pahrump, NV. They gave us such a deal and then let us stay much longer than the book said. The same thing happened at Quail Run near Tombstone, AZ. They didn't have a lot of business right then, so they gave us the Passport America discount for longer than the book said. If anyone joins after reading this post, be sure to give them our name, we will get some kind of perk. I can't remember what it is though!!! There are a lot of clubs to join, and we are always looking for more good deals. I'll let you know when we find them. I will also try to make my next post about it.

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  3. Hi Sheri! Thank you for your comments on my blog!!! I would love to join you and friends for encouragement on weight loss. I still have 30-40 lbs to lose. It has been so long since I have weighed a "normal" weight, I do not know what weight my body will actually feel comfortable in now! :) Thing is I do not partake in FB any longer. Maybe another way? Let me know! Also.....I LOVE LOVE LOVE your blog! We have been searching for information on toy haulers as we plan to purchase one next year. Your information was so extremely helpful!!!!

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  4. P.S. I didn't think I could grind my own wheat or make my own bread here, but learned that I stll can! I grind a bunch of wheat at once and then stick the flour in the freezer, as the flour can be used right from the freezer! I am not good at keeping up with the baking right now with working part time, but hopefully in a year I will no longer need to work and will get right back into it on a daily basis! Also the weston a price foundation has information on where to get the good food from in every state!

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  5. Thanks for the info. I will look into that foundation. I am going to get back to making bread this week. I know my family will be so happy. They are so sick of store bought bread. I might try to store the wheat in my freezer, but it is soooooo small and already packed. I may just have to grind as I need it. Thanks for the comment! Sheri

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  6. Hi Sheri,
    We live in our 5th wheel in the oklahoma panhandle and we replaced our floor vents with metal ones we bought at home depot otherwise we would be replacing them all the time too.
    We also use a clothesline, one of the umbrella collapsable ones. We just pound a T-post into the ground and use hose clamps to fasten the clothesline pole to. We have two teenage daughters and we have to do a load of wash every day too. The clothes line save lots of money.
    I enjoy your blog. We are hoping my husband can find a telecommuting job too so we can travel around but so far no luck.
    take care,
    debbieo

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  7. Debbieo,

    I asked my husband about going to Home Depot for the floor vents, he said he has already looked. Our vents have odd dimensions, so they won't work. Too bad. Thanks for the tip though. Hopefully it will help someone else who reads this blog!
    I hope your husband can find a job that will work for you family to travel. I know we are very blessed to be able to do this. Right now we are spending six weeks with our family in Wisconsin. We left the camper in MO and are renting a cabin. We spent two hours today recording stories my grandmother told of her childhood. It is such precious times like this that remind us why we have chosen this lifestyle.
    Sheri

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  8. Sheri, I was wondering if you have a written monthly budget that you would be willing to share. I know you said you want to be debt free, i was curious if you would not mind, if you have payments on any of your vehicles, camper, etc. My husband works road construction and we travel with him through the summer, we are looking into selling our house and maybe getting a bigger camper and going FT for a year.

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